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November 16, 2020 at 4:39 pm #15809
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GuestHi guys (gals)?
Just got my Supersonic 2 board in the mail (thanks for the super handy cap/resistor chart, Barry). I was looking through my ever-growing parts stash before I start building and I have everything except the ICs specified in the build doc. I have on hand 4558s, TL072s, and OPA 2134s. Would those work (and work well) or do I need to order some ICs? I have recently moved on from kits (have built around 25 or so) and am new at sourcing my own components, so just want to make sure I have a working pedal when finished. I like using the OPA2134s whenever possible because my dad was an engineer at Burr Brown and helped develop those chips, so he always likes to hear about me using them (even though he hated when TI bought them out and retired shortly after). Anyways, thanks for any advice you might have.
November 17, 2020 at 10:04 am #15815
BillyModeratorHi Jon
You’ll need to order some op amps
The ones you have are dual op amps you need single op amps an LM741 and TL071
Just for info op amps come in single, dual and quad packages meaning they either have 1, 2 or 4 op amp circuits internally in the same package and therefore the pin outs are different
The TL series are easy to tell the difference
TL071 with the 1 denoting 1 internal circuit (single) 8 pin package or DIP 8, DIP = dual inline package meaning the pins are on both sides, the 8 denoting the number of pins in this case 8 dual inline so 4 per side
TL072 with 2 denoting 2 internal circuits (dual) 8 pin package or DIP 8
and obviously the TL074 with 4 denoting 4 internal circuits (quad) 14 pin package or DIP 14
Unfortunately not all manufacturers make it easy to know which package it is, but most suppliers do state whether it’s single or dual
The confusion arises because the same physical package is used with single and dual op amps ie they both have 8 pins
There is a little information on op amps in the beginners guide to effects pedal components on the guides page
If you look at the pinout diagrams for the TL071 and TL072 on Google you’ll see the different pin allocations etc
November 17, 2020 at 11:18 am #15817Anonymous
GuestThanks for the helpful info, Billy,
November 18, 2020 at 9:05 pm #15831
CybercowParticipantFor what it’s worth, I put together a list of Op Amp Equivalents:
PIN-FOR-PIN Replacements with Slew Rates . . . .
Single Op Amp Equivalents:
- CA3130 – Slew = 10V/µs (OTA)
- CA3140 – Slew = 9V/µs
- LF351N – Slew = 13V/µs
- LM201 – Slew = variable
- LM301 – Slew = variable
- LM308 – Slew = 0.3V/µs
- LM4250 – Slew = variable
- LM709 – Slew = 0.25V/µs
- LM741 – Slew = 0.5V/µs
- LM748 – Slew = 0.5V/µs
- LME49710HA – Slew = 20V/µs
- MC1439 – Slew = ~6V/µs
- MC33171N – Slew = 2.1V/µs
- MCP601 – Slew = 2.3V/µs
- MCP603 – Slew = 2.3V/µs
- MUSES03 – Slew = 35V/µs (very expensive)
- NE5534 – Slew = 13V/µs
- OP07CP – Slew = 0.3V/µs
- OPA134 – Slew = 20V/µs
- OPA602 – Slew = 20V/µs
- OPA1641 – Slew = 20V/µs
- TL061 – Slew = 3.5V/µs
- TL070 – Slew = 18V/µs
- TL071 – Slew = 13V/µs
Dual Op Amp Equivalents:
- AD712 – Slew = 16V/µs
- CA3240 – Slew = 9V/µs;
- LF353 – Slew = 13V/µs
- LM358 – Slew = 0.3V/µs (@ unity)
- LM1458 – Slew = 0.5V/µs
- LM2903 – Diff. Comparator
- LM4558 – Slew = 1.7V/µs
- LM4559 – Slew = 2V/µs
- LT1490 – Slew = 0.06V/µs
- LM4560 – Slew = 5.5V/µs
- uPC4570 – Slew = 7V/µs
- LM4580 – Slew = 5V/µs
- LM833 – Slew = 7V/µs
- LMV652 – Slew = 3V/µs ~ 0.12 mA
- MAE2741 – Slew = 1.6V/µs
- NE5532 – Slew = 9V/µs
- NJM4565 – Slew = 4V/µs
- OPA1642 – Slew = 20V/µs
- OPA2107 – Slew > 9V/µs
- OPA2134 – Slew = 20V/µs
- OPA2604 – Slew = 25V/µs
- OP275 – Slew = 22V/µs
- RC4559 – Slew = 2V/µs
- TL022 – Slew = 0.5V/µs ~ 0.13 mA
- TL062 – Slew = 3.5V/µs
- TL072 – Slew = 13V/µs
- TL082 – Slew = 13V/µs
- TLE2072A – Slew = 38V/µs
- TLE2072C – Slew = 45V/µs
Quad Op Amp Equivalents:
- LM324 – Slew = 0.5V/µs
- LT1491 – Slew = 0.06V/µs
- OPA1644 – Slew = ~20V/µs
- OPA4132 – Slew = ~20V/µs
- OPA4134 – Slew = ~20V/µs
- RCA4136 – Slew = 1.7V/µs
- TL074 – Slew = 13V/µs
- TL084 – Slew = 13V/µs
- TL064 – Slew = 3.5V/µs
- TLE2074A – Slew = 38V/µs
- TLE2074C – Slew = 45V/µs
November 18, 2020 at 9:14 pm #15833Anonymous
GuestI have scanned and stored for future reference. MANY THANKS!
November 19, 2020 at 12:42 pm #15839
CybercowParticipantWilkie1 – I cleaned up the Apple textural artifacts. (I should’ve double-checked after posting.)
November 19, 2020 at 7:12 pm #15842Anonymous
GuestThanks Cybercow. That is immensely helpful. I have checked out some of your builds, and I must say they are inspiring. I will no doubt be here for some troubleshooting.
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