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  • #35406
    John
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    Today is my first day using DIYLC. I’m working through a breadboard design of the EH Screaming Bird / Screaming Tree layout by Dcountry13. I wanted to know how to make my resistors look like resistors. I tried Color Code: 5 Band and 4 Band, and Shape: Tubular Beveled, but they just remain straight (red) lines. Also if you see anything wrong with this layout please let me know. Thanks!

    #35410
    Big O
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    I don’t know what graphics program you are using, so I can’t help you with the resistor appearance.

    I will let you know with a couple of component changes and additions you will have a Hornby Skewes treble booster.  That was the first  breadboard project I ever attempted and now I do quite a bit of breadboarding trying to play around with different circuits/schematics.  It has been really helpful in building veroboard and perfboard projects that are not available in pcb form.

    #35411
    John
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    Thanks. I’m using DIY Layout Creator. I figured out what was happening with the resistors not appearing correctly. It was because I created them as .5W and then I went into “Edit Selection” and changed the power rating to .25W. Today I deleted those and made new ones at .25W. I also cleaned up a couple of things. I ordered the parts yesterday and I’m looking forward to putting it together.

    Thanks for the info about the Hornby Skewes treble booster. I see that schematics are readily available online. No input or output caps. Kinda scary.

    Here’s the updated version of my project.

    #35432
    Big O
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    Actually there is a correct schematic for the Si transistor version in the GBOF build document.  It has both input and output caps.

    #35433
    John
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    That’s the one that I’m building. The parts are supposed to arrive tomorrow.

    #35434
    John
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    Actually that’s not the one I’m building. I see Hornby Skewes Treble Boost in the TOC (last item). There’s also a “rumored Blackmore Mod” (output gain pot added). I’ll look into making the modded version.

    #35447
    Big O
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    For the output mod, I used a 500K or 1M pot, which worked better for me.  The Pot after the output cap will work as a High Pass filter, so the larger the pot value, the lower the 3db cutoff frequency is.  For a 100K pot that frequency is about 1590Hz, a 500K pot the cutoff is at 318Hz and for a 1M pot the cutoff is at 159Hz.  So with a 100K pot you start losing low frequency content sooner on the pot rotation compared to the larger pot values.  Of course this is a “treble” booster and and you don’t care about losing the low frequency content that much.  But really a treble booster is really more like a mid and treble booster except for the Ehx screaming bird/tree which has a super treble content to the extent that it is unusable for me.

    #35448
    Big O
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    And I forgot to add, the HS treble booster layout on the GBOF is my doing, so I am to blame.

    #35449
    John
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    Thanks. This is all good to know. I already have the parts for the EH version so I’m going to do that first, but I will probably try your version just for comparison and to keep learning.

    Can I put 9VDC directly to my board or do I need a resistor? I’m a little bit confused by this diagram because it doesn’t say the value of the CLR and it doesn’t say what the component in the top center is. I also want to add an LED to show if the pedal is on or off, and I assume that the black jumper across the bottom of the 3PDT switch is a true bypass, which I also want. It looks like in bypass mode the input to the board gets grounded, correct? Thanks for any info about that.

    #35451
    Playsforfun
    Moderator

    This should help some.

    #35452
    John
    Participant

    I guess the top center thing is a DC input jack. I was just looking at the diagram on the stompwizard website. They also specify a 1K 1/8W resistor. I see that with some of these 3PDT boards you can put the resistor on the board.

    #35453
    John
    Participant

    Thanks for the diagram. That’s very helpful. I was posting my last reply when I got the email about yours.

    #35454
    Playsforfun
    Moderator

    My go to is 3.3K 1/4 watt for a CLR. I find 1.8K (especially) with blue, is way too bright. BTW grounding the input while in bypass isn’t necessary always. It can help with extraneous noises in some cases.

    #35456
    John
    Participant

    I have some 2.2K resistors here so I’ll start with one of those and see how it looks. Thanks again.

    #35459
    Big O
    Participant

    Here is my wiring diagram for the HS Treble Booster with Output Pot.  Although the 22n Input Cap is the standard, I usually use a switchable Input Cap (not shown here) for more flexibility.  Usually 22n (default), 33n (slightly more mids) and 47n (even more mids).

    #35460
    John
    Participant

    That’s great. Thank you! I definitely need to learn what happens when you switch capacitor and resistor values. That’s good info. I ordered the parts for the switch yesterday. I didn’t get a switch PCB this time because it would take a couple of weeks to arrive, but I can see that they’re handy for making soldering easier. My switch parts will arrive on Monday and then I’ll start building my first pedal.

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