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  • #29317
    Big O
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    Question regarding 9V power supply filtering.  I built a couple of treble boosters over the past year using the GBOF board and when built I used a 9V Battery to test the pedals with the usual setup:  Guitar>Pedal>Amp and everything sounded fine.  I went to use a 9V Power Supply (One Spot) instead of a battery and just got horrible background noise from the pedal.  Replacing the One Spot with a battery resolved the issue.

    Since I have no power supply filtering built into the circuitry, I was wondering if a simple add-on from the power jack would resolve the issue with the One Spot.  However, I am not sure what configuration and values would work between the power jack and power input to the board.

    Example 1 is from the GPCB One Knob fuzz circuit

    Example 2 is another configuration.

    And Example 3 is a third type.

    Which circuit would be the best for my situation and what are the recommended Diodes and Capacitor Values?

    #29345
    Anonymous
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    All of the above designs work to some extent.  By that I mean it depends on how much noise is present in the AC source and how much is generated by the power supply itself.

    You may find that a single stage of filtering will suffice in some situations while severe noise environments will require multiple stages of filtering. I have used an O’scope to examine noise in a power supply.  As I added additional filter capacitors of various values, the noise continued to be reduced to a point.

    I hope this helps.

    #29346
    Anonymous
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    For further clarification, we are discussing the remaining ripple noise that is left by the power supply.  The power supply itself has its own filter capacitor(s).  I investigated and found that there are formulas to determine the correct value for the filter (smoothing) capacitor in a DC power supply.  But, we are discussing how to manage the ripple noise that is found after the DC voltage leaves the power supply and enters our pedals.

    I found that adding additional stages of filer capacitors in pedal circuits can further reduce the audible noise found in the supply.  One source stated that increasing the filer capacitors by a factor of 10 would reduce the ripple noise by the same factor.

    I hope this helps.

    #29350
    Big O
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    Thanks Wilkie.  I had also done some reading along this line and some of it was beyond my limited electronics knowledge to completely understand how to figure things out.  I just started looking at some of the available schematics for various treble boosters and found that the most common filtering is a series Shottky diode for reverse polarity protection with a 47uf capacitor to ground for noise filtering.  So some people have already done the work for me I guess and that’s what I will try, at least at first.  Similar to the One Knob Fuzz schematic but with a larger capacitor.

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