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I was looking at the build guide for the Emexar and Green Ringer, and it says in the Ring guide “By driving the Emerald Ring with a Fuzz Face or other circuits such as…..Emexar.” Now, where i come from driving something with something else means the “something else” comes first in line so it can drive the thing that comes next, so I would expect to wire it up so that the Emexar is first and its output DRIVES the Emerald Ring.
But, in the build guide Wiring Diagrams, it shows just the opposite with the Ring first and the Emexar being driven by the Ring instead of the other way around.
So, someone please help me. Which is correct and why?
I am pretty much brand new to pedal building and VERY new to this forum, so if this is posted in the wrong place, feel free to move it or tell me and I will try to move it. I just couldn’t see how to post this anywhere else.
Thanks in advance for helping this confused noobie.
Bud
Eugene Oregon
Hi Bud,
There’s no definitive right or wrong—it’s really a matter of personal preference. Both approaches work; they just function a bit differently. I don’t have a strong preference either way.
The final page includes instructions for using an order-switching board, giving you flexibility to use either.
Well, Barry, thank you for your helpful response that sure explains why the build instructions illustrate it one way and say it another, and why I have since learned people def. build them either way. It just makes more sense to me somehow, so I went ahead and wired it so that the Emexar comes first and that drives the Emerald. Its on my test rig, so easy enough to change if it doesn’t sound appealing that way.
When I build pedals I often find they are designed with guitar players in mind; I play bass. With this pedal, my guess is that it will end up for sale as I am not much of a distortion guy. I hardly ever use fuzz. Before two years ago, my only pedals were a compressor, tuner, and wireless receiver. And that’s how I’ve kept it for over 40 years of playing. When I started playing in a duo for a couple of years, I played the leads, so I actually ended up with a pedal board for which I made the power supply, complete with voltmeter and ammeter, and a couple of different fuzz pedals (of which only one is on the board at a time) and a very useful buffer pedal. My others are commercially made bass chorus, bass Xciter, octaver, and reverb.
The reverb is the new one by Fender and is the only Fender product I own. Made specifially for bass, and after trying a bunch of reverb pedals and not liking any of them, they did great on this one. The key feature is the high pass filter, so no mud.
At the moment I sell one commerical product, an onboard preamp for Stingray basses. I’m about ready to come out with a pedal version. Not huge money makers, but I’m retired so electronics has now returned to being a hobby instead of a profession.
Rant over.
Thanks again for your prompt helpful reply/
Bud
The tone from the Emerald Ring is not for everyone as it is a rather nasty sound best achieved in the middle of the guitar neck as can be heard in my demo at YouTube. It is usually a Love or Hate thing adding further to the subjectivity.
That figures. I read all rave reviews, then I build the thing and find it just sounds weird. Definitely not interested in playing bass through it. Well, at least I didn’t waste an enclosure. I use the testing tower from MAS Effects which is very helpful and faster than trying to kludge together an ad hoc test box.
I think both board are going in the donation pile. Not worth bothering to enclose either one. Be different if I were a guitar player, possibly.
Bud
Barry is right about placement. It can go before or after your dirt box. It may sound better before some dirt boxes and better after other dirt boxes. However, it can sound fine but different before or after other dirt boxes. You just have to try the different combinations.
I also found the lack of controls for this circuit was not entirely desirable and did my research to see what others had done. So I added a Gain Control, a “Balance” Control (aka Null Control) and a volume control. The gain Gain Control is what I found to be the most useful. The final schematic is below.
The final pedal appearance is below.
I don’t know if you really need to put it in the donation pile, you may want to just experiment with it. However, I am not sure if it has much utility with a bass. I will have to experiment with a bass myself.
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